Thursday, March 26, 2009

Is humans nature naturally evil?

Personally, i think we are born neutral. Though the only thing we have control of in the universe is if we choose to be good or evil.
Is humans nature naturally evil?
No one is born evil. I think people are often egotistical and can be selfish, wanting the best of things for themselves at the expense of others... but pure evil is rare... (usually a result of psychopaths and psychotic episodes)
Is humans nature naturally evil?
The concept of evil is a divisively religious one, and far too simplistic to be considered seriously.
Reply:There is no good and evil, its only a mere artificial conception in order to build the groundwork of society:laws and orders.





People all have different aspect, perspective, feelings %26amp; taste, and of course: ways of dealing. When you ask a certain question which does not necessarily have one answer, the answer will vary between people. Its simple as that, some people may find some solution on certain question %26#039;evil%26#039;; however in his perspective only more logical.





%26#039;Right-and-wrong%26#039; concept, moral builds up depending on the culture %26amp; parental teachings. So it all differs.





Most people will say abusing/murder is evil, but, in some circumstances, and in some countries, its tradition of sacrifice. And it is remote to the conception of %26#039;evil%26#039; in their perspective.





In our world we have %26#039;law and punishment%26#039;. But in my personal view its nothing more than a soft way to put %26#039;vengence%26#039;.





There is no evil in this world, there is unique perspective.
Reply:Confucius quote


Human%26#039;s natures are alike;


it is their habits that separate them.





Some people have the habits of doing good and others have the habits of doing evil.
Reply:Humans have only a few innate instincts... suckling is one, and another is our social instinct, we need people to survive ourselves, and a few others which I don%26#039;t remember right now. Otherwise we are born empty of thought or reference, and we don%26#039;t even have organic filters yet.





In the first five years of our lives, we absorb a Universe, we hear, see, taste, touch, smell, everything that our senses encounter, without any references or judgments, and if we hear it, even if we don%26#039;t understand it, we take it in and remember it, not consciously, but subconsciously. A researcher once told me every baby is so far beyond genius in adult terms that it is not actually measurable.





It becomes the ultimate reference for everything we learn afterwards. As we grow, during those first five years, we learn to put more importance on what our parent or parents say, what the %26#039;adults%26#039; say, and we take it in without any filtering at all. We accept it as true without questioning it, and we cannot even tell if it is true or not because we have nothing to compare it with.





We absorb a Universe, which includes both experiential knowledge, (like the hardwood floor is hard to fall on and the rug is less hard to fall on,) and conceptual information. Since most of the conceptual information was passed down through the generations, often being embroidered with all kinds of added on details and distortions from non-understanding, as much as 90% of that information is likely not true. Plus, every generation has vastly more conceptual information to deal with, especially in the last two generations.





The experiential data is more reliable, but compared to past generations, the average person gets far less of it. Our daily environments are a lot simpler than in the past. For instance, modern young children in the USA often can%26#039;t name more than six insects, those they encounter at home or their back yard. Children used to encounter hundreds of all kinds of creatures and plants every day.





Once, every child had at least 10 adults known by them around to ask questions of. They may get ten answers, but they could then have a basis for comparison. Now, in these generations, they might have a child care person who doesn%26#039;t like children, working for minimum wage, to ask questions of.





At most, a lot of children has only two adult people to ask, the mother who is seldom around and the teacher or child care employee, who spends more time with them than the mother. Peer groups and the internet gives them a tremendous amount of data, but most of it is fictional and TV and movies reflects the culture of the writers and producers that create it, what sells tickets or advertising.





They get layer after layer of mostly Bull to work with in their thinking. They, most people, walk around and live their lives essentially as organic robots overfilled with controlling programs which vie for control of the body and mind. %26#039;Free Will%26#039; becomes a latent ability that may or may not burst free when they get into %26#039;spirituality%26#039; later in life. Even then, following their programming, many simply buy into some religion or another and never exercise any Free Will.





Conscience, intuition, compassion, and many other abilities come inherent in the human mind, as part of the social instincts. But most barely notice these abilities. Since they are part of the confusion of the mind, they sometimes shove their way to the surface and helps the ego find and generate what we call %26#039;spirituality%26#039;. It%26#039;s like a rebirth of the mind when it happens.





But some people either don%26#039;t have the social instinct or suppress it throughly, and we call them psychopaths. They often see the Universe as a dream of theirs, like they are the only mind in Universe, the Center of that Universe. Other people are just characters in the %26#039;movie%26#039;. They might do anything to anyone and not have any conscience at all.





Confusion taken to the Nth degree causes Cynicism, which also tends to deaden the %26#039;spiritual%26#039; abilities.





That is the closest to %26#039;Evil%26#039; you can get, although the vast majority of people do not deliberately harm anyone. The rest of what people define as evil is simply confusion and rationalizations, or pre-programmed responses acting under stress. Nobody is inherently evil, so the vast majority of people on this planet are very good people, taking care of each other, not knowingly harming anyone, and playing by what they think are the %26#039;rules%26#039; of society.





Lastly, %26#039;Human Nature%26#039; is every way people can be, from cynical and nasty to compassionate and sweet. It is not any narrow definition. Trying to cut through the confusion by categorizing things as %26#039;evil%26#039; and %26#039;good%26#039; really leads to confusion or fanaticism and prevents the internal happiness that is each person%26#039;s birthright.





A lot of words, I know. But the question is not really answerable with a single short paragraph.





I hope this gave you a bit more understanding and answered your question.
Reply:no. our instincts require us to be greedy, as before civilisation man never knew when his next meal was coming, and the stockpilers survived more fruitfully.


the consequences of greed may seem evil, but i dont think that an action can be defined as evil if there is a reason for it.


doing evil, in essence, is causing suffering to another being for no reason. if there is a reason behind it, its better defined as unfair.
Reply:It is easier to be evil then to be good . Just like it is easier to hate then to Love .

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